Today Mike Bara, famous historian, famous archaeologist,
internationally-recognized expert on the history of spaceflight, posted
on FB/twitter:
"Just got recognized because of Ancient Aliens. Mission accomplished."
Good for you, Mike. Did you offer to sign a copy of the 'Table
of Coincidence' published on enterprisemishmash in support of the
so-called Ritual Alignment Model? Perhaps not, since this is what it shows:
[Image]
image credit: www.enterprisemission.com
Oh look Mike, that's not what you said on Ancient Aliens
Season 4 Ep 5: "The NASA Connection." I distinctly heard you say the
Orion belt stars were on the horizon, 33 minutes after the Apollo 11
landing.
There were a few other problems with that performance, too. I
know the fans don't care, but internationally-recognized experts on the
history of spaceflight should really get at least some of their facts straight.
Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is
wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara
is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong
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Trekker said...
Take a look at page 13 of this: http://feralhouse.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/revelation.pdf
He has a diagram showing Regulus at 19.5 degrees below the horizon when Aldrin took communion.
Yes, that's right. He changed his mind about the timing of the
communion ceremony. And then had the nerve to write that the star
elevations were "exactly as we had predicted." What poppycock. How does
he think Buzz Aldrin measured the elevation of Regulus, minus 19.5°????
Anyway, all that was forgotten when it came time to be interviewed for Ancient Aliens, and he reverted to the incorrect time of communion.
Mike Bara is a know-nothing flim-flam man.
July 7, 2012 11:43 AM
Anonymous said...
So I've just checked out what the actual situation is in
Stellarium. Set my location to the Apollo 11 site on the Moon and the
date and time to July 20 1969.
It shows that Sirius is located at 19.5 degrees at precisely 23:49:49 GMT.
http://h.dropcanvas.com/9qham/sirius_195.jpg
In otherwords, nothing to see here Mike, even with your rounding to make the numbers a bit neater.
The irony of the thing is that though Mike is even less qualified
to talk about this stuff than Hoagland (who was at least there at the
time), he's the one who gets screen time (using Hoagland's material no
less) on TV these days. It's the no nothing CADCAM technician who get's
recognized, not the self identified expert in everything known and
unknown. Karma and all that.
July 7, 2012 1:44 PM
jourget said...
Maybe it's because Hoagland isn't any good at contributing to a
discussion that he isn't the focus of. He's never been much of a sound
bite man, always insisting on filling in tertiary points before getting
to the main part of his argument. Even his shortest appearances on Coast
have still been a couple of minutes long. When he appeared in the SyFy
2012 special, he still complained in his NASA-Kennedy-Obama DVD that NBC
edited his comments to make him seem more worried about 2012 than he
actually was. He's always been so concentrated on emphasizing how
significant his own research is that he doesn't much care what a given
show is about.
July 7, 2012 9:55 PM
strahlungsamt said...
I'm not really an expert on Egyptology but wasn't all that stuff
about Isis/Osiris/Horus lost to Humanity for the best part of 2 millenia
until the Rosetta Stone was found in th 19th century?
If so, it
would mean there could have been no Egyptian god worshipers in that
time. (At least not until Pyramid Power was discovered in the 60s by a
bunch of aging, stoned hippies).
July 8, 2012 4:34 AM
strahlungsamt said...
Why knock Bara for being a CAD/CAM technician? It's one more qualification than Hoagland has. Beats an Angstrom award anyday.
I
saw one of Bara's presentations on Youtube recently. It's in 10 minute
chunks due to YT limitations. I only watched the first part and oh boy
was it interesting. Bara showed Hoagie's ID pic. Then he showed
Hoagie today. Then he joked that Hoagie's pic was him yada yada yada. At
the end of 10 minutes he was still making jokes about the pics. No
facts, no info, nothing interesting except his loyal fans applauding
him. Needless to say, I didn't watch the rest.
I still think Dick
wanted to audition for Ron Jeremy's job with that pic. Then again,
maybe porn is a bit too intellectual for him.
“ …but only people living in the United States , i.e., illegal
Aliens” (How can a person be "illegal" by the fact that is walking in a
particular place on Earth ?, his muscles , is blood, his brain , his
universal rights… can all that things be “illegal”, according to the
universal declaration of human rights ? There´s more “ …a president who
smokes” (¿?!) “…a Surgeon General who is obese” (WTF?) So here also the
ideology of Bara is close to the tea party, Flightsuit? Oh my…Is a
whole man..
No matter how well you pin down Bara on any one of his anthill of
errors. He will reply, "I NEVER SAID THAT." And with George Noory as
his minder. Do not expect to be allowed a rebuttal.
It's actually kind of interesting to me that Bara and Hoagland
and Noory all subscribe to some very right-wing beliefs. One would think
that groovy UFO/alien type guys would tend to be very "open minded" and
therefore liberal.
Speaking as a strident liberal, I'm glad Hoagland, Bara, and Noory agree with the radical right: It makes the right look bad.
No question about Mike Bara's politics. I'm sure he thinks
Goebbels was The Great Communicator. In August 2010 he wrote to me as
follows:
"As if I needed any more proof that you are a complete
blithering idiot, the fact that you are obviously a democrat confirms
it. Enjoy November."
I'm not so sure about Hoagland, however. I
can't think of anything that prejudiced coming from him. Robin obviously
admires (or admired) the Occupy Wall St movement. So I dunno....
Expat, Hoagland's politics are whatever they need to be to
fit the current narrative. I would say he gravitates towards the
unthinking populism of that despises elites while trying to emulate
them. That kind of philosophy can be found on the extremes of both the
right and the left.
As to Hoagland saying anything prejudice, I
doubt he would either. He's too busy hating people for other reasons
(like actually having a formal education, for instance) to be bothered
with mere race. Why hate someone for the color of their skin, if you can
hate them for being part of the vast conspiracy to keep humanity on
this "prison planet?" It makes perfect sense of you don't think about it
too much.
Bara on the other hand, is just parroting what he
hears (or thinks he hears, I doubt he pays much attention to anything
that won't get him laid) on Rush Limbaugh. Since Rush knows as much
about politics as Bara does about science, it makes sense. Ignorance is
apparently not only bliss, it can make you some serious money if you
play it right.
Completely agree with Expat, believe in this -ET's-UFO
pseudoscience thing, and by extension, in any godo r gods or
brother-angels that fly in the skies and send signals an so, assumed or
brand new, have nothing to do with the political ideology that the
believer profess.Lenin was an atheist, and also Hitler, (and Thomas
Jefferson or Bill Maher, -relatively speaking , you know what I mean…),
their political ideologies are completely different… True that a
materialistic education tend to be more critical with the nonsense of
“transcendence & mistery” that an idealist , but that doesn´t mean
there are not many neurosurgeons very right wing, or at church every
Sunday, or astronauts who believe in UFO´s and the holistic - magic
conection of the universe (Ed Mitchell) Is the Vatican who most
severely condemns these "occultist" practices… That puts us on track of
who will actually compete for these people their cosmology and the
supermarket of “senses and meanings of life”.
Strippers have to endure many drooling idiots, it's their job.Sad.
July 10, 2012 5:21 PM
Anonymous said...
Hoagland has stated many times that Bara is a Republican, I've
always come away thinking that Hoagland leans left, politically. He
wants other people's money to live his lifestyle. It pains me to say,
while I dislike Bara, I agree with some of his points on the Health care
law.
Republicans like to paint themselves as huge patriots. You'd
think, therefore, that instead of trolling for hookers in a BMW, Mike
Bara would want to show some solidarity and buy a car that was built on
American soil.
Whatever Hoagland's political views, just consider the facts. He
heavily promoted the nuclear powered Project Prometheus, spending an
entire program of Coast to Coast AM, the first time he was ever
interviewed by George Noory, within the first three weeks of his debut
as host. Hoagland's agenda was to get listening audience to email
George Bush II, and bug him to buy it.
Now, Hoagland deletes all
mention of Project Prometheus as well as all posts regarding the X-37B
from his facebutt page. He is always denigrating NASA, but he has never
said a word against the DOD.
Misti, You may be reading too much into it. Prometheus may
have been his object of interest (as in, it was going into one of those
deadly 3 hour Power Point presentations of his), but the moment passed
and he moved on. If he made some serious predictions involving the
project, he probably wants us all to forget that too. Hoagland has a way
of trying to rewrite history he he screws up.
The same can be
said of the X-37B. Since he's not really "in the know" any more, he
probably has less knowledge of the project than you do. As it doesn't
quite fit any of his current narratives anyway, he'd rather not bother
talking about a subject where reality can bite him in the ass at any
moment. Just a thought anyway.
Hah, hah, hah! Twitter is the perfect medium for Mike Bara. Not
so much for Hoagland, though: How would he ever do his Gish gallops in
mere 140 character increments?
It would seem Hoagland is busier this past few months than we
gave him credit for. So perhaps he will be challenging Mike Bara for
that #1 spot in the NY bestseller list. See below.
This is a message that Robin posted in the Agents' Lounge. She gave me permission to put it here in the Reading Room.
Just
to give you a heads up on the humor here... Richard is spending every
waking second getting ready for an increcible (sic) conference which is
being held next week.
He doesn't have TIME for anything else... especially reading a 480 page book!!
Now... Here's Robin to tell the REST of the Story about Richard and the Obergon Chronicles!!
From Dr. Robin Falkov:
Hello Everyone,
Absolutely
had to let you all know how spectacular "The Obergon Chronicles" is.
Our Raye can REALLY write, but you know that already.
I showed
the book to Richard and he commented on how beautiful the cover art is,
and that it must have been very expensive. (many of you, as I did, will
find a special resonance with the cover)
Then, taking the book
with him, he wandered back to his office where he is crunching for our
major 2012 event next week in Joshua Tree, followed by his presentation
for the C-Pak Conference. Oops, forgot about the film crew coming next
week for a very well known television station. Needless to say, he's got
a full schedule.
Anyhow, a while later, Richard came back and handed me THE book. It seemed he wanted me to hide it from him!!!
He
said, "That woman is dangerous. I just picked it up and started to get
lost in it. What a writer! Don't let me have it or I won't be able to
get any work done."
So guys, go get lost --- in Raye's new book.
And, don't forget about our event during Columbus Day weekend, Oct 6-9 in Joshua Tree, California. Please go to:
and click on the banner at the top for more info. You can always ask me if you have any questions.
Don't many of you live in California? There are lots of options for attendance.
Robin
July 11, 2012 7:25 AM
Trekker said...
Binary, how current is that? Is she referring to this year?
This
year's CPak conference doesn't list Hoagland as one of its presenters:
http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/cpakonline/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=6&Itemid=50
And if the Joshua Tree conference is in October, how could she refer to it as 'next week'?
This was most likely around this time last
year. But ties in with the "where the hell does Hoagland earn a living
from." - Giving us an insight. Clearly it's just from conferences and
appearances. I guess Hoagland is struggling this year for cash. Given
the amount of begging he has been doing both on Facebook and on C2C.
Perhaps his disastrous Elenin crapola presentation has backfired.
The Joshua Tree 2012 conference was in 2006. See this announcement: http://www.enterprisemission.com/joshuatree.htm
Note
that if you decide to order the DVD, the order link leads nowhere
useful. The DVD was never finished. Hoagland complained that he lost
$25,000 on the deal.
====================== "Date:20 oct 2006 Subject: Re: Confusion & what you said...
I'm simply flat broke(you know what that's like ... don't you?)
I
came back home -- after two weeks on the road, two conferences, untold
thousands of hours getting ready -- to a total of $75 in my checking
account.
I'm over $20,000 in the hole from Joshua Tree (along with Carrie) ...etc.." =====================
July 11, 2012 10:09 AM
Trekker said...
OK, thanks Binary and Expat for the explanation of the time lapse!
July 11, 2012 10:14 AM
strahlungsamt said...
The Republicans and the Tea Party have been recruiting every
nutball and failed author they can get their hands on. Examples: Alex
Jones, anti-semite bought over by Fox - now a pro Zionist. Jim Goad,
author of "Shit Magnet" about a poor white male's struggle against women
and racial equality laws in the USA, now a Tea bagger. There's
others I can't think of right now but Mike fits in there with the best
of them. He's just the kind of nutball we might be seeing more of on Fox
in the near future.
I thought Hoagland might actually be working on the book this
time. He doesn't seem to have a lot of other options when it comes to
money these days, and even if it flops he can live on the advance for a
while. So it would make sense that he'd ignore everyone (besides George
Noory) until he gets it out the door.
All I have to do to get tons of people to comment on a dead
thread is mention Project Prometheus and the X-37B so they can try and
bury it.
You guys must all work for the government. The
Democrats and the Republicans are both fascisticly supported by the same
special interests. Neither wants transparency or to do the public's
bidding.
My take is that Hoagland is a liberal at heart, but he caved and took the money from the DOD, and now he has to shut his mouth.
That was the reason why Hoagland on Coast shouted down Robert
Zubrin who wants to go to the Moon again to set up a water-hydrogen
extraction filling station to refill rocket engines on craft which have
consumed all their fuel to escape planet Earth. Hoagland was still
advocating nuclear power for direct flights to Mars. Zubrin was
chipping away at Hoagland's rice bowel.
Richard C Hoagland admits to being the last person to speak with
Dr Eugene Mallove shortly before his assassination. The murder was
pinned on crackheads, but according to Hoagland, Mallove told him during
that final telephone conversation that he was in possession of some
sort of new free energy device. Was Hoagland's and/or Mallove's phones
tapped? Or did Hoagland squeal to the spooks? According to Hoagland,
that free energy device was never found. Hoagland went right on the air
with this story, a day or two after Mallove was killed, in order to get
ahead of the curve on the spin, and per-emptively start building his
defense.
A free energy device would have killed Project Prometheus at that
time. Now, that the D.O.D has the X-37B, NASA is claiming to be in
possession of a cold fusion engine.
Hoagland told me personally that he studded at UC Berkeley, and
he responded to a post of mine on his Facebutt wall, by directing me to
the location on campus of their nuclear reactor, from his memory, he
said; not Google.
You guys let Hoagland get away with too much by dismissing him as
stupid. That's why I figure that you are actually covering for him.
Are you NASA, or the D.O.D.?
"Mike Bara has fans"
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"Just got recognized because of Ancient Aliens. Mission accomplished."
Good for you, Mike. Did you offer to sign a copy of the 'Table of Coincidence' published on enterprisemishmash in support of the so-called Ritual Alignment Model? Perhaps not, since this is what it shows:
[Image]
image credit: www.enterprisemission.com
Oh look Mike, that's not what you said on Ancient Aliens Season 4 Ep 5: "The NASA Connection." I distinctly heard you say the Orion belt stars were on the horizon, 33 minutes after the Apollo 11 landing.
There were a few other problems with that performance, too. I know the fans don't care, but internationally-recognized experts on the history of spaceflight should really get at least some of their facts straight.
Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong Mike Bara is wrong
He has a diagram showing Regulus at 19.5 degrees below the horizon when Aldrin took communion.
Anyway, all that was forgotten when it came time to be interviewed for Ancient Aliens, and he reverted to the incorrect time of communion.
Mike Bara is a know-nothing flim-flam man.
It shows that Sirius is located at 19.5 degrees at precisely 23:49:49 GMT.
http://h.dropcanvas.com/9qham/sirius_195.jpg
In otherwords, nothing to see here Mike, even with your rounding to make the numbers a bit neater.
http://h.dropcanvas.com/9qham/sirius_33mins_after_landing.jpg
If so, it would mean there could have been no Egyptian god worshipers in that time. (At least not until Pyramid Power was discovered in the 60s by a bunch of aging, stoned hippies).
Beats an Angstrom award anyday.
I saw one of Bara's presentations on Youtube recently. It's in 10 minute chunks due to YT limitations. I only watched the first part and oh boy was it interesting.
Bara showed Hoagie's ID pic. Then he showed Hoagie today. Then he joked that Hoagie's pic was him yada yada yada. At the end of 10 minutes he was still making jokes about the pics. No facts, no info, nothing interesting except his loyal fans applauding him. Needless to say, I didn't watch the rest.
I still think Dick wanted to audition for Ron Jeremy's job with that pic. Then again, maybe porn is a bit too intellectual for him.
And instead of calling the ending a money shot, it would be "a stunning confirmation."
http://mikebara.blogspot.com/2012/07/what-is-obamacare-exactly-defintion.html
I would love to see some people post some comments on his little diatribe.
Speaking as a strident liberal, I'm glad Hoagland, Bara, and Noory agree with the radical right: It makes the right look bad.
"As if I needed any more proof that you are a complete blithering idiot, the fact that you are obviously a democrat confirms it. Enjoy November."
I'm not so sure about Hoagland, however. I can't think of anything that prejudiced coming from him. Robin obviously admires (or admired) the Occupy Wall St movement. So I dunno....
Hoagland's politics are whatever they need to be to fit the current narrative. I would say he gravitates towards the unthinking populism of that despises elites while trying to emulate them. That kind of philosophy can be found on the extremes of both the right and the left.
As to Hoagland saying anything prejudice, I doubt he would either. He's too busy hating people for other reasons (like actually having a formal education, for instance) to be bothered with mere race. Why hate someone for the color of their skin, if you can hate them for being part of the vast conspiracy to keep humanity on this "prison planet?" It makes perfect sense of you don't think about it too much.
Bara on the other hand, is just parroting what he hears (or thinks he hears, I doubt he pays much attention to anything that won't get him laid) on Rush Limbaugh. Since Rush knows as much about politics as Bara does about science, it makes sense. Ignorance is apparently not only bliss, it can make you some serious money if you play it right.
True that a materialistic education tend to be more critical with the nonsense of “transcendence & mistery” that an idealist , but that doesn´t mean there are not many neurosurgeons very right wing, or at church every Sunday, or astronauts who believe in UFO´s and the holistic - magic conection of the universe (Ed Mitchell)
Is the Vatican who most severely condemns these "occultist" practices… That puts us on track of who will actually compete for these people their cosmology and the supermarket of “senses and meanings of life”.
Strippers have to endure many drooling idiots, it's their job.Sad.
Now, Hoagland deletes all mention of Project Prometheus as well as all posts regarding the X-37B from his facebutt page. He is always denigrating NASA, but he has never said a word against the DOD.
Is NASA Republican and the DOD Democrat?
You may be reading too much into it. Prometheus may have been his object of interest (as in, it was going into one of those deadly 3 hour Power Point presentations of his), but the moment passed and he moved on. If he made some serious predictions involving the project, he probably wants us all to forget that too. Hoagland has a way of trying to rewrite history he he screws up.
The same can be said of the X-37B. Since he's not really "in the know" any more, he probably has less knowledge of the project than you do. As it doesn't quite fit any of his current narratives anyway, he'd rather not bother talking about a subject where reality can bite him in the ass at any moment. Just a thought anyway.
This is a message that Robin posted in the Agents' Lounge. She gave me permission to put it here in the Reading Room.
Just to give you a heads up on the humor here... Richard is spending every waking second getting ready for an increcible (sic) conference which is being held next week.
He doesn't have TIME for anything else... especially reading a 480 page book!!
Now... Here's Robin to tell the REST of the Story about Richard and the Obergon Chronicles!!
From Dr. Robin Falkov:
Hello Everyone,
Absolutely had to let you all know how spectacular "The Obergon Chronicles" is. Our Raye can REALLY write, but you know that already.
I showed the book to Richard and he commented on how beautiful the cover art is, and that it must have been very expensive. (many of you, as I did, will find a special resonance with the cover)
Then, taking the book with him, he wandered back to his office where he is crunching for our major 2012 event next week in Joshua Tree, followed by his presentation for the C-Pak Conference. Oops, forgot about the film crew coming next week for a very well known television station. Needless to say, he's got a full schedule.
Anyhow, a while later, Richard came back and handed me THE book. It seemed he wanted me to hide it from him!!!
He said, "That woman is dangerous. I just picked it up and started to get lost in it. What a writer! Don't let me have it or I won't be able to get any work done."
So guys, go get lost --- in Raye's new book.
And, don't forget about our event during Columbus Day weekend, Oct 6-9 in Joshua Tree, California. Please go to:
and click on the banner at the top for more info. You can always ask me if you have any questions.
Don't many of you live in California? There are lots of options for attendance.
Robin
This year's CPak conference doesn't list Hoagland as one of its presenters: http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/cpakonline/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=6&Itemid=50
And if the Joshua Tree conference is in October, how could she refer to it as 'next week'?
Or am I missing something?
This was most likely around this time last year. But ties in with the "where the hell does Hoagland earn a living from." - Giving us an insight. Clearly it's just from conferences and appearances. I guess Hoagland is struggling this year for cash. Given the amount of begging he has been doing both on Facebook and on C2C. Perhaps his disastrous Elenin crapola presentation has backfired.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/joshuatree.htm
Note that if you decide to order the DVD, the order link leads nowhere useful. The DVD was never finished. Hoagland complained that he lost $25,000 on the deal.
======================
"Date:20 oct 2006
Subject: Re: Confusion & what you said...
I'm simply flat broke(you know what that's like ... don't you?)
I came back home -- after two weeks on the road, two conferences, untold thousands of hours getting ready -- to a total of $75 in my checking account.
I'm over $20,000 in the hole from Joshua Tree (along with Carrie) ...etc.."
=====================
There's others I can't think of right now but Mike fits in there with the best of them. He's just the kind of nutball we might be seeing more of on Fox in the near future.
You guys must all work for the government. The Democrats and the Republicans are both fascisticly supported by the same special interests. Neither wants transparency or to do the public's bidding.
My take is that Hoagland is a liberal at heart, but he caved and took the money from the DOD, and now he has to shut his mouth.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2003/01/24
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/hoagland_owls.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Security_Policy#Prominent_members